Why would anyone ever want to grind/pick a Leopard 2A4, T-80B, Challenger Mk3, Type 90, ZTZ96 ( lol) or AMX-40 ( lol) when you've got a M1A1 with M829A1 available. If you're going to buff these two tanks, you'll have to buff other nations' tanks equally.Īnd yet again, this is where the fanboys start to get offended because them asking for buffs generally means they just want to have superiority. Giving the M1A2 M829A1 is like converting the current Leopard 2A5 into a Leopard 2A6 with ammunition performance to match. M1A2 > any other nations' primary tank (apart from the Strv 122) then. M1A1 > any other nations' back-up tank then. However, that's not what the guy asked for, he went a step further and asked for M900 on both 105 Abrams'. M833 is fine, it's not that far off from old M774. The funny thing with these people is that they're getting mad about heir favourite toy not having it's ''supposed'' reload rate, but when you point out the fact that that would also give the Leopard 2 a 4s reload, they suddenly get quiet/start deflecting. So who is winning the most in both comparisons? Oh right the Abrams. Hull armor-mediocre Hull armor-mediocre T-64B winsĤ crew+blowout panels 3 crew, big carousel ammo rack Abrams wins Turret armor-mediocre Turret armor-decent T-64B wins +20 degrees gun elevation +15 degrees gun elevation Abrams winsĢ7 HP/T ~16HP/T, no neutral steering Abrams winsģ31mm pen APFSDS point blank 479mm pen APFSDS point blank T-64B wins 10 degrees gun depression -5 degrees gun depression Abrams wins 22kmh+ reverse gear -4kmh reverse gear Abrams winsĤ0 deg/sec turret traverse aced 24 deg/sec turret traverse aced Abrams winsĢ0 deg/sec turret elevation speed aced 4 deg/sec turret elevation speed aced Abrams wins How about comparing the M1 Abrams and the T-64B? Hull armor-mediocre Hull armor-good T-80U winsĤ crew+blowout panels 3 crew, big carousel ammo rack M1A2 wins
Turret armor-good Turret armor-good No winner +20 degrees gun elevation +15 degrees gun elevation M1A2 winsĤ91mm pen APFSDS point blank 479mm pen APFSDS point blank M1A2 winsĢnd gen thermals + CITV 1st gen thermals, no CITV M1A2 wins
10 degrees gun depression -5 degrees gun depression M1A2 wins 22kmh+ reverse gear -10kmh reverse gear M1A2 winsĤ0 deg/sec turret traverse aced 24 deg/sec turret traverse aced M1A2 winsĢ0 deg/sec turret elevation speed aced 4 deg/sec turret elevation speed aced M1A2 wins Repair Cost of all other nations tanks are 2, 3, 5 TIMES what they are to Soviet tanks. Hesh Still not doing what it should do, still missing its secondary concussive effect. Leopards not given any Upgraded APFSDS rounds or any HE Rounds.īradley / Merkava Adats, ETC able to be penetrated by the russian 14.5M Commander guns when they are immune to those. XM-1 still missing its Nera Armor for the Hull All Nato HEAT-FS rounds penetration have been reduced, to unrealistic and un-proven qualities, gaijin never giving a qualified NATO Source or even given a second source to reduce the penetration values, going up against their own rules M1A1, M1A2 Don't have any APFSDS upgrades, as they should have the M829A1 ( Silver Bullet ) M1A2 Has 3 different tanks all in one, with the wrong armor protection, and it has been bug reported with all the documentation proving it should be even more well protected and well armored than the Challenger 2. M1IP Never ever used the M735, and if im not mistaken never used the M774, could be wrong, but i know for a fact that it used the M833, M900, which they just won't give to the tanks because.? M1 Abrams has the same round as 8.7 tanks as its starting round None of the Abrams have the Correct armor, do not have any Armor on the turret rings allowing them to be penetrated by T34-85s, have gaps in their armor allowing the turrets to be penetrated by tier 6 tanksĭepleted Uranium Rounds Still Missing their pyrophoric effect, which would kill the crew of any tank they penetrated.Ībrams some how always get blown up if the ammo doors are penetrated which is unrealistic, since it depends what angle the shell hits the tank, as jet of flame would still follow the path of least resistance and most likely only kill 1 or 2 crewmen or critically injure them. No New tanks in the past few patches have been given ERA Blocks except for the Russian Tech Tree. Russian Tanks Having Modifications that the tanks didn't have IRL ✔
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Russian Tanks just received Volumetric armor, and extra armor making the drivers hatch even harder to hit ✔
I wasnt bringing those tanks up to this, but i will now Lastly you debunk your own argument with your own sources, if this game is so Soviet favoured, why does SWE, GER, ITA and FRA factions have better stats on Thunderskill for all their top tier tanks? 122, 121, 2A4, 2A5, Ariete, Ariete PSO & Leclerc.
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